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Mp3 tagging

I really, really hate untidy people. I hate people who use altogether lowercase file names and ID3 tags (as opposed to English Style Settings). I hate people who name their songs in the spirit of “someartist_01._albumname_-_songtitle-releasegroup.mp3″. That means all you l33t scene people as well. I hate people who do not even bother to use track numbers. I hate people who can’t spell and can’t write “can’t” and instead write “cant”. All you people cost me hours and hours of renaming and retagging.

Accepted file format:
“01 - This is a Song.mp3″ or “01 - This Is A Song.mp3″
Really simple, isn’t it? Now check your ID3 and put that in a folder like “artist - album”. How hard was that?

But still, another 12GB or so of mp3 renamed, tagged and sorted. Still not found a tagging and renaming program that I am satisfied with. In the past I’ve used 1-4a Rename for renaming and MOOsic Organiser for tag editing. Yesterday I gave Tag&Rename 3.1.5 a go. At least for tagging it seems like a good complement. It’s not as intuitive as MOOsic or 1-4a but it is more powerful. Takes awhile to get used to but I found it very useful for renaming files from ID3 tags and changing lower case tags to have a leading upper case char. It is reasonable to assume that either the file name OR the tag is complying with standards. The beauty of Tag&Rename is that it also checks for low bit rates in files. One possible downside is that it separates ID3 1 and 2 in the view pane, thus requiring a bit more clicking around. MOOsic plays it simple and displays the first tag version it sees and lets the user edit that tag and forget about the rest.

7 Responses to “Mp3 tagging”


  1. 1 Ephraim F. Moya Posted September 4th, 2004 - 17:23

    Have you tried iTunes? With that you can edit or change the files’ descriptions pretty easily.

  2. 2 Björn Hallberg Posted September 5th, 2004 - 11:16

    No I have not. In fact I’ve stayed clear of iTunes from day one. Being DRM and everything. But I have heard good things about the interface. Very easy to use. Might work out in the end despite a shaky start.

    At the risk of sounding a little anti (like always) I recommend you read Downhillbattle: http://www.downhillbattle.o...

    Of course the DRM is broken nowadays, see the Hymn Project (was Playfair): http://hymn-project.org/

  3. 3 Ephraim F. Moya Posted September 5th, 2004 - 18:51

    I just turn off the music store stuff. It gets out of the way completely.

    Then it allows me to organize my hundreds of mp3’s at least on screen. Plus I make up genre’s that allow me to sort my way. I have 102 versions of Cucurrucu Paloma. (my favorite song)

    The latest thing I use is the ‘party shuffle’. That plays random songs from my library. Its kinda neat to hear different stuff at random.

    But my point was that iTunes allows me to point and click to change tags.

  4. 4 Björn Hallberg Posted September 5th, 2004 - 19:26

    Ah, I suspected that was what you meant, but it seemed odd to use iTunes just for that function.

    Genres and playlists are fun. Unfortunately I have only a fraction of my collection on disk. Most of it is on cd /dvd. Only have between 20-40GB accessible and it varies wildly.

    Cucurrucu Paloma .. I’ll look into it. Not familiar with the title, I think. The most I have of one song is probably three or four recordings of "Greensleeves" or something.

  5. 5 Ephraim F. Moya Posted September 5th, 2004 - 22:20

    Cucurrucucu Paloma is a VERY good example of Mexican ‘Mariachi’ music. Some experts say that Mariachi is the only kind of music that is purely new world.

    Its about a man whose wife dies. He is mourning in a garden by drinking and crying. A dove seems to comfort him by cooing. "They say that the dove is nothing less than her soul"

    The ‘root’ version of Cucurrucucu Paloma is by Lola Beltran. The version by Nana Mouskouri in french is very good. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a Swedish version. If you find one let me know.

  6. 6 Ben Visser Posted November 14th, 2004 - 15:48

    I knew the song from versions in the past but I was never really interested in it (thougth it was old-fashioned). However when I was watching the movie "Hable con ella" de P. Almodovar I came to know the version of Caetano Veloso in Spanish. I think it must be one of the most sensitive versions ever recorded and it fits very well in the movie. I listen to it regularly now and It remains beautiful. Ephraim you know this version as well ??

  7. 7 zoom Posted January 9th, 2006 - 02:50

    I hate finding a good tune and having to edit something like "Library of Ephraim F. Moya" from the dang thing. What about album in the name of the mp3? isn’t that good criteria? as you yourself say you just may have hundreds of versions of a particular song. Or how about artist ? I do note an irony, when complaining about misspelling "can’t" some one mispelled "me" when saying "All you people cost my hours and hours "

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