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LifestreamTired of being deemed a criminal and a terrorist by the system for sharing a few measly files at no financial gain or loss to anyone? Tired of seeing the developing world starve because the developed syndicate refuses to share its intellectual property? Tired of corporations engaging in the racketeering of the developing world, stealing millennia old agricultural ideas and claiming them as their own? Do you feel that a few power hungry individuals and greedy corporate entities are infringing on YOUR privacy and integrity? If so, you may be what we are looking for. You may in fact be a “pirate” without knowing it.
Swedish citizens can support the formation of the “Pirate Party” here:
https://www.piratpartiet.se/
Piratpartiet promises to:
- Strike out immaterial law. Every last bit of it.
- Disregard WIPO and WTO completely. Even though the US will “go bananas” as they put it.
- Annul any further treaties or policies that hinder the free flow of information.
- Stand up for privacy. No data retention nonsense based on terrorism shills or failed **AA business models.
As far as I can tell, the founders seem to share (but this is just speculation) a radical form of capitalism and belief in free markets that views intellectual property as illegal monopolies. In effect obstacles to the truly free market.
The new party, which is now in the first phase of registration, aims to break the 4% barrier (225 000 votes) this autumn to take up seats in parliament. Even if that is not attainable, they are bound to create quite a ruckus, ruffle some feathers and stir up a debate over the issues of immaterial law and the way we deal with information.
Technocrat: Swedish Pirate Party
Slashdot: Swedish Filesharers Start ‘The Piracy Party’
Inquirer: Swedish pirates form political party (flattering :-))
Your speculation is true - the founder is an extreme capitalist that views legal monopolies as unbalanced between the state and the monopoly owner; the state is handing out monopolies like candy, getting nothing (or even negative value) in return. No business would agree to exclusivity like that, ever.
Signed, the founder (and leader) of Piratpartiet
However (and I must remember to add this, always) — socialists and liberals have equally valid reasons for this as do capitalists.
I am not a capitalist, at this point. I am a Pirate.
I wished I live in Sweden, not just for this reason though, its alot of things. I think Sweden is the coolest place on earth. Anyway, I can’t imagine a pirate party here in the US, with our quasi-fascist government.
Long Live the Sharing Revolution!!!! Humanity has achived the capability to transform economy goods into free goods, this new Material Reality paradigm show us that we live in a dual system. Capitalist (market, demand and offer) and Sharing system (superabundance, no $ offer or damand). Comunnist are wrong. Transhumanism and the Singularity are here. Sharing Revolution is the beggining of the Singularity. Sharing is the real socialist economic system. Remember that Rodenberry saw all this with the Replication (materializers), in Star there was no Capitalism. (almost, but the concept was there). Evolution baby!!!!
Yarrrr. You talk a good platform, matey, but can ye walk the planks of it?
Commie pinko bastards…
YAAAR! Long live the Pirate Party!
It took me a little while to figure out what all the Swedish meant on the site as I had to translate it word by word. But I am now officially a party member of the pirates. ARRRRRRRR MATEY !
Go piratpartiet.
This is just whats needed.
The world needs to open there eyes for the new world.
A world on the net.
http://www.datafiend.com/do...
i’m enjoying the worldwide darwin awards as the internet lets the light into dark corners and the slimy mythocracies race headlong toward martyrdom and extinction.
i’m speaking of the riaa, of course. and all their dinosaurian ilk of any color or stripe.
Just what the world needs :wink:, you have no idea how far the world could be without such laws, YARR
I am not sure about the file sharing ordeal, but I agree that monopalies are growing at an alarming rate causing prices to sky rocket beyond a reasonable price. With everyone being apart of everyone else’s business, then who actually owns it?
All I can say is: Please, please, please when the pirates storm parliment, send the revolution here!
Guailano in OR, US.
Piracy or just plain theft…
simple words….
did u pay 4 it?
if no.. how can u expect 2 use it…..
Oz_P_Nut
(australia)
When are you guys opening up a party house in the U.S. ? You’d get massive membership even as a lobbying group. I’m kind of sad I’m not able to join in on this.
I pay for my cable-Tv. Why can´t I download the episodes that I missed from the net ?
Falconwing brings up an important point. This is an issue that does indeed bridge the normal left-right continuum. Even though it at first seems like "lefty" talk, or indeed "radical capitalism" when the former has been debunked. But on this issue it doesn’t need to be either/or. Taking one issue at a time can be a good way to get somewhere even when ideologies bog you down.
For the longest time I didn’t see it because I’m generally opposed to the new economic theories. Not realizing of course that there are those on the right that also want more from the system. I guess it’s easy to generalize on outgroup conformity. Empowering the market in this fashion could be a way to in fact empower us all at a very low cost to say Rawlsian egalitarian liberalism or whatever inclination one might have. Doing some soul-searching, many of the problems with "neo-liberalism", "laissez faire" or whatever one calls it is in fact that the ideologies operate under the umbrella protection of governments. Not at all just being counteracted as some neo-liberals see it. In effect they (a minority, the monopolies) enjoy dual benefits, living "laissez faire" and having a massive legal machinery free of charge at their command. Even the monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force to back it up if everything else fails (Weber).
In most countries … corporations, if not state-owned, have at least grafted themselves onto government. The military-industrial complex is perhaps the best example of the latter. So even governments who seem to talk the talk can’t walk the walk, as it were.
"…Tired of seeing the developing world starve because the developed syndicate refuses to share its intellectual property?"
As someone who actually works in the developing world under an NGO, I’ve seen that starvation in these places has nothing to do with the ’syndicate’ or the ‘corporations’ or any other such boogeyman. Movements like this always like to speak of the ’syndicate’ like it’s some far-reaching, unified legion of doom led by a round table of super-villains. *Gasp!* However, we’re never really told who the syndicate is. Unless you’re trying to tell us that Bedouins in North Africa are dying from tuberculosis because the RIAA won’t let you download your Rage Against the Machine music?
Here’s the truth of it - I hope you don’t mind my perspective. I’ve just been travelling parts of Asia, the Middle East and Africa for the past 8 years doing relief work, and don’t have the experience that weed-smoking, music-pirating, Che-reading, web-blogging, parents’-basement-dwelling 15 year olds would have. Most of this starvation in developing nations has to do with their own governments being corrupt - and nothing to do with the West. I actually think that’s a sign of Western arrogance:
"People are starving in India! We Western nations are so mighty and powerful, it simply must have something to do with Nike!"
Is it any coincidence that the dollar amount given to Africa in aid over the past few years is almost totally matched by the dollar amount embezzlled by the same nations? Is it disturbing to you that in India, the failed-but-still-running caste system allows less than 5 percent of the population to control over 95% of the resources (the opposite then being also true)? In the country where I work in particular, 51% of every business in the country, new or established, must be owned by a person of their particular ethnicity (not white). And that nation - not America - is considered one of the most corrupt nations to do business in in the world. One man I spoke with, the manager of a Radisson told me "Radisson paid for me to live in the US for two years and be trained to run the business here. They found that there is so much corruption in this part of the world that if you just appoint someone from the local populace to run the hotel, it will fail within a year."
One last thought to those who are actually supporting this movement. Does it looks familiar at all to any of you? This is just socialism repackaged. Show me where in the world that this type of thinking has succeeded. What it essentially boils down to is this, (which socialists believe):
1) None of you are that bright. There’s no way that any of you can possibly make lots of money on your own good ideas. Therefore, if you see someone with lots of money, he must have stolen it and oppressed people to get it. There’s no other explaination.
2) Start a business! Make some money! We believe in small businesses! However, know that there is a line between you being a ’small’ business, and one day being a ‘big’ business. You won’t know the line when you cross it, only we will. On that day, we will decide that there are people more deserving of some of your dollars than you, and we will re-allocate them. (Remember Nike, Microsoft, Coca-Cola and McDonalds were all at one time start-up, small businesses sticking it to the corporate fat-cats. I know - it’s hard to hear).
So go ahead and repackage your socialism. Even add ‘pirate’ to the name. It certainly ties-in with illegal file-sharing, and pirates seem to be pretty ‘hip’ in internet subculture nowadays, what with Maddox, realultimatepower and countless other clones, so that’s a plus. It may fly in Sweden, a country so bass-ackwards that feminists want to remove urinals from men’s rooms so that they as females are not ‘discriminated’ against (http://www.petting-zoo.net/...) but try to bring that here to America and see what happens.
In response to CODK:
I agree with many of your statements and the fact that you have real experience with the poor of the world where you gave assistance adds to the weight of your words.
However, the big problem is that in the next 10 years the laws and business models will simply be outdated by what technology and connectivity will bring. For instance there is talk now of Ipod-like products that will have built in Wi-Fi and file sharing. Can you imagine… people will be sitting in traffic and browse the local wireless net and find that someone 2 cars behind them (or two seats away at a coffee shop) has the song they want. Or even a movie, or a game or so on… How the hell can a RIAA of MPAA regulate that??
Information is getting more and more difficult to contain whether its on vinyl, magnetic tape, or little shiny discs, and now it saturates the airwaves. We are approaching an information singularity where information will flow like water and how can you stop that? We will have to find another way to pay those that come up with original content. I’m not saying that I have the answers, but I do know that is it naive to say that the old business model will ever work again.
Oh and heres an interesting link on the subject… Thomas Edison can shed some light (by his mistakes) on this issue ; )
http://www.mp3newswire.net/...
Remember that the site was more or less a test as I understood it, and therefore it wasn’t really that much effort behind it. So you can’t really give it a fair judgement yet.
It has now been fixed a little and a translation (English. Spanish coming) has been made.
Now you can read a Full Declaration of Principles on the site, which was accepted by a majority of 86.44% Yays.
hot chicks and true freedom of information.
I’M MOVING TO SWEDEN
=)
I am from Romania, but i hope you will make it, because even if i buy a software, i don’t have the quaranty that it will be good, and if i buy a DVD, i will spend my money even if that mouvie is very bad.
CODK youre going way off topic what you are talking about does not have anything to do with what redmont is doing this movement is not socialism you dont know what were talking about if other industries were like the software industry u would have to buy a loaf of bread for peanut butter and a different one for making a bolony sandwitch simply by opening the bag it came with you would have already agred to an exagrated EULA that doesnt protect the consumer in any way and if u wanted to toast your bread u would need to buy more licenses its a shame that we are beeiing treated like criminals when we are beeing stolen from how would you like it if books were made in toilet paper? and then the publisher made it to where u cant copy it? yet the price was still the same as 40 pound paper? its the same thing with cds, it cost cheaper to manufacture yet they still cost the same as tapes and dont last as long and to make things worse u cant back them up without dealing with DRM or RIA or SONY’s fiasco then they come in flimsy protection to give u a better idea windows packages are made of cardboard that protects better than jewel cases (witch surprised me alot) i have a valid XP pro and it was way too expensive but i bough it becuse i had the money and its the right thing to do but right now i am using a copy d/l from T.P.B. why is that? well its simple really my copy doesnt have sp2 if i want to update it takes abuout 3 to 4 hours to install and thats with a cable connection and 2.4 ghz and i still have to reactivate it, if u instal windows a lot (and u will have to) you will eventually have to give them a call because they will stop activating the same serial over the net and deal with a recording give them an exagerad long key then they in turn give you and exagerated long key all just to install windows its outrageous, microsoft (and any other) patents thousands of things like how to handle a note in a cellular phone thats only one example can u image how many patents like that hinder inovation? it doesnt take a genious to figure this one out!
hmmm i wonder if the Cook dude did his relief with the Peace Corps?
Have any other extreme leftist movements tried to pass themselves off as "radical capitalists" in the past?
Intresting note
You all talking about the immatrial patents should be abolished
and that i stand behind if its for a non commercial use meaning personal.
But in pirate party they also argue for the abolishmeant of the material patents - though i really think its more to shift focus to get p2p legal but and it has worked.
The idea behind this is that patents in general stops development. For exampel take the american airways. When wwII started us had well crappy planes and when the government had to build good planes they simply put shitted on every patent took what they wanted and build good planes. As it is today patents a hold by different comapanys that compete try to stop the other by not allowing them to use their designs. Then we have medical patents thats forces developing countrys and even sick people pay enormous sums of money for drugs witch production cost is minimal.
And people still keep the myth alive about a lonley scientist working in a cellar and suddenly have a break through and gets money from idea that is false. Reality is completly diffrent.
maybe the scientist gets they idea but a company gets the patent they earn the money not the scientist. If the scientist argue he will be drowned in legal fees. The only winners in the patent industry is the companys that have money and time to pay the lawyers and be couped up in court.
a grimm reality
and to take a patent takes about 4 years and the cost is about at least in sweden where im from about 50 000 usdollars. This means like in the mobile industry they no longer bother taking patents because when the idea has become a patent its already old and of no use. i dont know if im talking about us mobile industrys but i true for sony-ericsson and nokia
piracy is the way forward